^^^^^ good idea^^^^

Rob - any chance of you making the tweenie sized Laro shafts in different colours (primarily red and blue lol) for the UK market?

aye would be nice to see them in more colours please

Hi Rob,
I have the Target Storm 5 and love 'em. Use to use Storm 2 but as my game progressed i found the 5 shape suited my throw better. Great innovation and combination with L-flight and Fit Flights as they are much gentler on the flights.

Few questions for you.
Will there be more Carrera models? (i.e. like Storm 5 shape)
How do the storm points match with Carrera?
How many pro's are using Storm points or darts? Why not?
Do you guys have any input into L-Style products?
There are some great Aussie players; do you scout Downunder? Apart from Whitlock i think Barry Jounette (Unicorn) is the only other majorly sponsored Aussie (Nicholson doesn't count!) Would Target ever consider getting behind the Australian circuit?

Cheers.

Hi Rob any news on my broken point yet as not heard anything as of yet. Cheers mate

Hi all,

Apologies for the lateness in my reply - been hectic in the office! But sure to say we've got some great little comps coming up, so keep your eyes peeled on our Official FB and Twitter accounts!

Hello jamie373, many thanks for your question! We have considered making shaft weights before and have also looked at barrel weights but have decided against them for now - however, if anything prospers in the future I'll be sure to let you know - as always I'll mention the idea to our production team.

Hello mc1958 - another great question. However, you'd probably get a clearer answer from Laro as they are a separate company to us - unfortunately we don't dictate what they produce

Hi Zappaluv! Many thanks for the questions, nice to speak to you for this first time - I'll go through them point by point (and also thanks for the kind feedback! We're glad that you like the STORM 5s, we're incredibly proud of that range).

CARRERA - at the moment we're developing products for next year - so watch this space.
STORM POINTS - Will put the first part of this question to our designer once he returns from his leave. As for pros that use them - Scott Rand uses STORM points in Team Target.
As for other pros, well like it is when it comes to amateurs I guess it falls down to personal preference
L-STYLE - unfortunately we don't have an input into L-Style products. They're a great, stylish , professional brand and we're proud to work alongside them.
AUSTRALIA - That's a very good question and point you make. Whilst we're a global company, always looking to expand in places we haven't reached - as for Australia, there will be news this side of Xmas! So keep your eyes peeled. We are in the process of signing two new players which will see us expand internationally - however, it isn't just a case of ability when we sign players. It's a combination of things that give us the right blend. If yourself or anyone know the Australian darts scene very well we would gladly look at any information put in front of us - after all, we love all darts in all countries.

Hi Kev - hope you're well. Will ask our designer as soon as he's back from leave. Many thanks.


Thanks everyone, keep those Qs coming!

Rob

thanks for taking the time out to read through and reply Rob , good to see a manufacturer doing this

Not a problem! We cannot stress how important good customer service is; we're a company that loves darts as much as our customers do, so we love to know your thoughts/views and always answer any questions with honesty.

It's great to see the interest in darts constantly thriving.

Obviously it gets busy in the office, so sometimes I might not get back to people within a couple of days - but I check daily for new questions so let me know if you have any more!

sent you a pm ask target

Hi Rob great that you are on here and I have to say you are really sorting out some issues for the forum members so well done. My question is: When making sets of darts who decides on what weight they are as it seems that all my favoured choices of dart barrel fall in either 22g or 24g and I play with 23g. Why don't you make from 18 to 26g in all ranges? I understand it would be costly but if you had more in the most popular weights of 21 to 24g and a few less in the other weights surely you would sell more so it would balance out. The problem is with me that 23 is my weight and no matter how hard I try to go a gram either way psychologically it is in my head.

Cheers mate and good job

Hi Kev!

No trouble at all mate, great customer service is imperative to us and we care about the issues that affect all players.

Really fair question that and it is something that we do consider when making every dart. Weights are decided on a number of factors such as market history. As you mentioned, it boils down to two main things - cost and demand. There has to be a balance between the two.

However - this is why we're back on forums and so active on social media. If there's a specific dart or barrel that you want in a certain weight, or a certain flight design which you think would look good - then write on our Facebook wall and ask for support. Ask if anyone else would want the same barrel in the same weight - we'll share it and if the demand is there we can do something about it! We listen to every request we get and I personally ask our designer every question we get. Because we care what you all think.

Hope this helps?

Rob

more 26's

Understand that 23gm is a very popular weight and of course if not made you certainly not gonna sell any , just an observation. I too feel Target is the best quality dart made btw.

21-25g are our most popular weights - although whatever barrel we make there will always be someone who wants it in a different weight - this is why we encourage people to write on our social media walls or group together on here; if the demand is there, we'll listen.

Still waiting for a response re the broken Storm point Rob , is your man back from leave yet?

Hi Rob, I am still waiting on a reply from Tues- Oct 2 and the follow up on Oct 6.

Hi all,

Apologies for the lateness of reply but I've been majorly hectic at tournaments.

Aussie Kev - how long have you had the darts and how often do you use them? Obviously with any dart finish comes natural wear and tear the more you use them - if you group tightly and use them frequently it is only natural that the finish may reduce. Hope this helps.

Big Gun - did you email a photo of your points? Who did you email to? If you could resend the photo to my address - robb@target-sport.co.uk I will sort today. Many thanks! Hope you're well pal.

Rob

Can anybody tell me if i fit grooved storm points to my Carrera C4 22g darts they will blend in well with the nose of the darts,just like the the storm darts,or is it better to stick with standard grooved points or knurled ones.

Hi Dart Fanatic -

Did you post the same question on Darts Corner forum?

If so, here is the answer I replied with -


You can fit the Carrera darts with our grooved Storm point, yes - although it is up to personal taste as to how much you want the point to blend with the nose.

C4's have a straighter nose, therefore the STORM point will not blend in as much as five of the STORM range - the best comparison would be the model below, which has a straighter nose;

http://target-darts.co.uk/images/sto...%20tip%201.jpg

Hope this helps.

Target Rob

Hi Rob

Fantastic to see you guys on top of everything with an answer at the drop of a hat!

Great work

Cheers Rob sent it to you last time but have just sent it again so let me know if you get it ok this time. Fingers crossed it was a one off and not a bad batch it only fell on my glass top desk and just snapped clean off so a bit unusual.

I do have another question for you though.

Why when you buy a set of Target darts do the flights always come punched out with a ring as this makes them unusable for me as I don't use the stems for them to fit in to. I have bught 4 sets of Target darts in the last 3 weeks and all of them I cant use the flights as they are punched. thats 3 sets of Carrera's and the Adrian Lewis's can you explain why Target do this as we all don't use this set up.

Cheers mate loving your work as always and speak soon oh and I am feeling much better in the back department so thanks for asking buddy my scan was good results so back on the oche with me new darts and all is going well, just loving the Carrera's.

Hi Kev

Great to hear your back is on the mend. That's the most important thing, health!

Glad you're liking Carrera's - how you getting on with them?

Have sorted your email buddy, will be in touch asap.

Very valid question as well - Target believe that slot-lock rings hold the flight much more secure on the shaft; a lot of players play with them so we started to instigate them on our precision end darts.

However, with a product meeting coming up this week I will pass this on - having spoken to the team here there's no reason why we shouldn't consider those players that prefer not to use it.

As I mentioned, the main reason was due to it forming a much more secure partnership between flight and shaft - creating a better dart to sell in a pack. Rather than a top class barrel with average stems/flights that keep falling out.

Hope this helps mate! Keep well.

Rob

Yes I can see the logic behind that theory Rob but it only applies to people using plastic stems as Ali stem or Ali topped stem users don't really have that problem as they hold the flight tight. I will say however that the stem, ring and flight combo does work very well and is very secure. My 2 choices of stem are Harrows quiver and Trulun rev grip and the flights can't be used with either. I have also heard other people on the forum say things like I have changed my set up to play with the set up in the box as it must be the best set up or Target wouldn't send it out like that, but their game is suffering for it. I know this is a matter of common sense but some people do go for 'exactly what it says on the tin'. This is by no means a criticism as you know I think you are the best Company by far for Darts equipment but just voicing a point that I and others may well be thinking. Plus it gives you some ideas to take to the table when in your meetings.

Are there any plans for target to make a stem similar to Harrows Quiver or Unicorn Ali Flex as they are quite popular and if you made them a lot would change to Target Bow Stems, my name for them if you decide to make them lol.

Cheers mate

Kev

That's a very fair point Kev, will look into it for you At the end of the day, we can't accommodate for everyone when it comes to set-ups straight out of the box - we have to draw the line somewhere. That is why we sell many other shaft types, to accommodate for those who don't use plastic stems.

As for people changing their set-up and playing with the box set-up - that is personal choice. The shafts and flights that we put on our darts are of the highest quality - it is a 'general' set up looking at what people buy/use over time. Sometimes it takes time to get used to a switch - others can adapt really easily - and sometimes players just don't adapt at all. Again, this is down to personal preference - although to a certain degree I think it would be fair to suggest that some equipment changes are affected by the human mind.

As a bit of an inside scoop, this is the case at Pro level - when players get their darts made, they can tell if a groove needs to be the slightest touch forward on the barrel etc - it is the same with flight shape and stem length. It all stems (excuse the pun) down to personal preference and what feels most comfortable.

As for the product suggestion - will pass it on for product review. As you probably know, we do have a range of ali shafts out and are always looking to improve on them.

And I will suggest the name too!

Hope this helps - have a great weekend.

TargetRob

Nice one buddy I don't use Ali on their own as I don't like them but the two I was referring to are both plastic with an ali top Quiver and Ali flex. Can't wait to hear what they think as you don't have anything like those currently. Thanks buddy Stay Special

Kev Big Gun Brown

Must say I love this section of the board.
Like Kev, I must say that Target are without doubt my manufacturer of choice. Pure quality every time, have never to date had a bad experience with any product of yours. Superb.

I guess a similar question to Kev posed about the dart weights, how much market would there be do you know to produce more of the darts in a black coating?

I would adore the Chizzy darts in a black barrel, or currently I'm using the Rand Storm darts. Either in black would be an instant win!
How much of a premium would you pay for a one off set or 2 sets to be made? I'm guessing lots? I want black but don't want to pay for a non-Target customised set of 'look-a-likes'. I'd rather pay for brand quality!

Hi Matt,

Many apologies for the late reply - and thank you for the kind comments!

Again, another great question - the first we've had regarding Chizzy's/Rand's darts in black.

I will pass it on to our product manager - but to justify the cost of doing so, there would have to be a considerable market for them.

As for the premium one-off sets - again, to justify the cost of production, the overall price would be too big. As you can imagine, we get inundated every day with requests about personalised darts - each barrel different and with different lasering. To satisfy them all would prove financially impossible.

I can appreciate that you would prefer to stick to brand quality - but in terms of production it is a lot more complicated than people think. There would also be a long wait - almost 6 months for production!

Hope this helps Let me know if you think of anything else!

Kind regards

Rob

I can't remember seeing a reply Rob, is there an update yet on how your boffins suggest we clean our darts - I'm now thinking specifically of the Carreras as that's what I'm now using lol?

Hello mc,

I have an answer for you -

Ultra sonic jewellery cleaners are usually good (can get them from jewellery stores) although not sure as to how expensive they are. A mixture of washing up liquid diluted with water is the best combination - although make sure you dry the barrels completely after washing as tungsten is a porous material.

If you can't find an ultra-sonic cleaner (or fancy the cheaper option lol!) then a bit of washing up liquid on a toothbrush is a suitable replacement - again, make sure you dry FULLY after cleaning as the tungsten will soak up any water that's left on.

Hope this helps,

Rob

Many thanks Rob - the washing up liquid method is what I use when I clean them but wasn't sure if there was a better way. I'll look into the ultra sonic cleaner as well as it will give me an excuse to get another gadget lol