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Subject: Early stages of Dartitis? Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:48 am
I have been doing alot of driving these last few weeks at work, doing delivery's in the wagon and clocking up 300+ miles a day.
Since doing this I have gradually noticed a tightening in my hands whereby I am struggling to stretch them out fully and when I try and throw a dart I am really struggling at times to let it go. I would say for at least a couple of hours after getting home from work it is pointless for me to even attempt to throw but later on I have managed to hit some nice darts, however my hand feels (and I guess looks) all deformed and claw like (kind of like Barry Bates at the end of last year).
Even typing this as I have just got in from work and I can feel tightness in my hands, would love a bit of practice but have had 3 darts, 2 of which I couldn't let go, the other dropping ot of my hand, spinning and sticking in the big 7 segment (aiming at T20).
Obviously nothing I can do about work except ask for a break from the driving but I am just keeping my fingers crossed that it could develop into something that will stop me playing decent darts.
USMC80
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:52 am
I know the exact feeling your getting in your hands. I would get it when driving 800+ miles every weekend. My hands actually kind of got used to it after a while but then again I wasn't attempting to throw darts at the time. My advice would be to stay hydrated and work on some kind of stretching exercise for your fingers.
Lefty544
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:28 am
That sounds more like hand cramps and potentially arthritis. The best way to counter that is to do stretching exercises of your hands so that they are not formed into a "claw" like they are when you are gripping a steering wheel for extended periods of time. Darts aside you should try to do that regularly to prevent your muscles from "locking up"
USMC80
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:29 am
Also helps to loosen your grip on the wheel a little
x2v
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:39 am
I doubt its dartitis. It sounds more like a physical thing rather then a mental block. So no chance of it developing into anything unless you actually injure your hand. Sounds like its just been strained and needs some rest. I had the same problems when I rode my bike allot, especially after a big voyage when my arms used to get all stiff and it was difficult to throw normally at times. I would suggest to try and lessen the strain on your arms while driving somehow. And once rested, continue to practice normally and your smooth action will return in no time.
getagrip
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:44 am
Yep I think its just the physical effort of gripping the wheel and your tendons and muscles etc have just got tightened in that same position all the time.
Rebel
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:50 am
Brilliant advice and a big relief, thanks for the replies, appreciate your time,
Cheers, Greg
getagrip
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:57 am
Get yourself one of these, but just do it for therapy not as an exercise to build your arms, although over time that wont hurt too much:
they called Powerballs over here, I think Argos sell em.
USMC80
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:03 am
Don't listen to Grip, He just likes the feel of balls in his hand.
getagrip
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:05 am
USMC80 wrote:
Don't listen to Grip, He just likes the feel of balls in his hand.
First Warning!!!
Rebel
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:05 am
On a serious note, that thing could just do the trick, cheers
USMC80
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:08 am
getagrip wrote:
USMC80 wrote:
Don't listen to Grip, He just likes the feel of balls in his hand.
First Warning!!!
getagrip
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:08 am
Rebel wrote:
On a serious note, that thing could just do the trick, cheers
Well since I have been using mine, my wrist pain has been more bearable and I think its actually helped it.
The only problem is the tendancy to try and beat records like this:
As long as your using as a rehabilitating aid its great!
Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:21 am
too much thinking at the oche is real bad stuff.
Bo-Jangles
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:34 am
USMC80 wrote:
Also helps to loosen your grip on the wheel a little
Top Point!!!!
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Rebel
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:50 am
Bo-Jangles wrote:
USMC80 wrote:
Also helps to loosen your grip on the wheel a little
Top Point!!!!
Yes I agree, I have now bought a small device thats fits on the steering wheel, like a little handle that allows me to steer without any effort.
Just hoping it helps
Bo-Jangles
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:20 am
Rebel wrote:
Bo-Jangles wrote:
USMC80 wrote:
Also helps to loosen your grip on the wheel a little
Top Point!!!!
Yes I agree, I have now bought a small device thats fits on the steering wheel, like a little handle that allows me to steer without any effort.
Just hoping it helps
Rotating Ball that clips (jubilee Clip) on the wheel? great acquisition. Truckers dream, All double Decker Buses used to have them !
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Rebel
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:25 am
Thats the one great bit of kit and I can already feel the benefit of not constantly gripping the wheel, I will see if it stops my hand/ wrist aching over the next few weeks.
Bo-Jangles
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:31 am
Rebel wrote:
Thats the one great bit of kit and I can already feel the benefit of not constantly gripping the wheel, I will see if it stops my hand/ wrist aching over the next few weeks.
There is also another bit of advice, touched on by somebody, Arthritis is a death knell to Dart throwers, I really do countenance Garlic Tablets (odourless are best). Although I state that you do not grip a dart your fingers still have to be pliable enough to position them correctly. Start as soon as you can with the Garlic. Take them daily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rebel
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:00 am
It is quite worrying to us dart lovers that one day we may not be able to play the game anymore and obviously hand strains can be one thing that leads to us putting our darts away for the last time.
I will do everything that I can (even take garlic tablets ) if it means that I am able to have another 3 arrows!
It is from thinking about, and reading, how we can keep out tools (minds, arms and hands in this case) in the very best condition to allow us to enjoy the sport of darts that I really feel for those who are unable to, either through arthritis, dartitis or other ailments, throw their darts like they once did.
Really brings home how lucky most of us are that we can even throw a dart, wether at tournament level, league level or just banging about in the spare room - the moral of the story - Just enjoy the darts while you still can.
Thanks for all the advice, really appreciate it
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:00 am
Garlic has medicinal properties for sure. Just make sure you don't over do it and if diabetic check with your physician first. Be sure that your not allergic to it of course. Larry RN
getagrip
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:21 am
I think arthritis will be inevitable for me sadly, probably already got it, but it runs in the family.
I take garlic capsules and have done so for sometime so maybe it has helped to lessen problems, I also take glucosomine and a good multivitamin as well as omega 3 capsules.
Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:08 am
getagrip wrote:
I think arthritis will be inevitable for me sadly, probably already got it, but it runs in the family.
I take garlic capsules and have done so for sometime so maybe it has helped to lessen problems, I also take glucosomine and a good multivitamin as well as omega 3 capsules.
I am sure they help.
and don't forget ya birth control pill
Rebel
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:18 am
getagrip
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:52 pm
Nah I just use carrots instead!
Bo-Jangles
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:27 pm
Rebel wrote:
It is quite worrying to us dart lovers that one day we may not be able to play the game anymore and obviously hand strains can be one thing that leads to us putting our darts away for the last time.
I will do everything that I can (even take garlic tablets ) if it means that I am able to have another 3 arrows!
It is from thinking about, and reading, how we can keep out tools (minds, arms and hands in this case) in the very best condition to allow us to enjoy the sport of darts that I really feel for those who are unable to, either through arthritis, dartitis or other ailments, throw their darts like they once did.
Really brings home how lucky most of us are that we can even throw a dart, wether at tournament level, league level or just banging about in the spare room - the moral of the story - Just enjoy the darts while you still can.
Thanks for all the advice, really appreciate it
This is the massive misunderstanding about darts, just because you have fingers, everyone assumes we grip, clasp, strangle the dart with them. Everyone believes that these digits are the sole reason we get the dart from A to B. It is not so!!!!!!!! There are several areas of the whole aparatus that combine in the correct sequence and the correct manner to propel the dart forward. when done correctly it is so very easy and a great feeling of euphoria springs upon us. There should be no stress, pain, discomfortwhatsoever it is a glorious sensation of basically strutting your stuff. Puffing out your chest and enjoying the times afforded. Age has no input on this sport if you can do it at 16 you can do it at 96.
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USMC80
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:38 pm
Bo-Jangles wrote:
Rebel wrote:
It is quite worrying to us dart lovers that one day we may not be able to play the game anymore and obviously hand strains can be one thing that leads to us putting our darts away for the last time.
I will do everything that I can (even take garlic tablets ) if it means that I am able to have another 3 arrows!
It is from thinking about, and reading, how we can keep out tools (minds, arms and hands in this case) in the very best condition to allow us to enjoy the sport of darts that I really feel for those who are unable to, either through arthritis, dartitis or other ailments, throw their darts like they once did.
Really brings home how lucky most of us are that we can even throw a dart, wether at tournament level, league level or just banging about in the spare room - the moral of the story - Just enjoy the darts while you still can.
Thanks for all the advice, really appreciate it
This is the massive misunderstanding about darts, just because you have fingers, everyone assumes we grip, clasp, strangle the dart with them. Everyone believes that these digits are the sole reason we get the dart from A to B. It is not so!!!!!!!! There are several areas of the whole aparatus that combine in the correct sequence and the correct manner to propel the dart forward. when done correctly it is so very easy and a great feeling of euphoria springs upon us. There should be no stress, pain, discomfortwhatsoever it is a glorious sensation of basically strutting your stuff. Puffing out your chest and enjoying the times afforded. Age has no input on this sport if you can do it at 16 you can do it at 96.
See larry, there's still a chance for ya!!!
Rebel
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:59 pm
Bo-Jangles wrote:
Rebel wrote:
It is quite worrying to us dart lovers that one day we may not be able to play the game anymore and obviously hand strains can be one thing that leads to us putting our darts away for the last time.
I will do everything that I can (even take garlic tablets ) if it means that I am able to have another 3 arrows!
It is from thinking about, and reading, how we can keep out tools (minds, arms and hands in this case) in the very best condition to allow us to enjoy the sport of darts that I really feel for those who are unable to, either through arthritis, dartitis or other ailments, throw their darts like they once did.
Really brings home how lucky most of us are that we can even throw a dart, wether at tournament level, league level or just banging about in the spare room - the moral of the story - Just enjoy the darts while you still can.
Thanks for all the advice, really appreciate it
This is the massive misunderstanding about darts, just because you have fingers, everyone assumes we grip, clasp, strangle the dart with them. Everyone believes that these digits are the sole reason we get the dart from A to B. It is not so!!!!!!!! There are several areas of the whole aparatus that combine in the correct sequence and the correct manner to propel the dart forward. when done correctly it is so very easy and a great feeling of euphoria springs upon us. There should be no stress, pain, discomfortwhatsoever it is a glorious sensation of basically strutting your stuff. Puffing out your chest and enjoying the times afforded. Age has no input on this sport if you can do it at 16 you can do it at 96.
When you say 'aparatus' would that not be, as I said, minds, arms and hands. I think anyone that has ever thrown a dart realizes that you need more than just fingers to propel a dart, I am yet to see a crab win the World Championship! I don't understand what I am 'misunderstanding' as I completely agree with you Bo, unless we are both misunderstanding something?
Regards, Greg
Bo-Jangles
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:50 am
No we are not misunderstanding each other, the problem could be that you as so many others see the throwing of a dart as a two dimensional action whereas I see it as a three dimensional. You look at your stance at the oche. What you see is Eye, Hand, Dart, Dartboard , the classic dart players appraisal. (It makes no difference that you don't do it; in fact can't do it) it's what you see and sense. I on the other hand do not see this ( top players don't) they may see the above appraisal but they sense the following. Eye, Dart, hand dartboard.
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Subject: Re: Early stages of Dartitis? Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:59 am
I see what you mean (I think ) however I am unable to line up eye-hand-dart-board as I am blind as a bat in my right eye and being right handed struggle to find a comfortable throw whereby I can bring the dart across in front of my left eye.
I tend to stretch my arm towards the target almost imagining the point in the spot that I am aiming and my pullback brings the dart into my collar bone, so out of sight before pushing through and releasing the dart - not eyedeal I know but its the best I can do in the circumstance.