Ok guys got these today and I was sooo excited for them.

I had tried the 23g Harrows boxers which I could throw very nice indeed.

Got these today ad opened them and tried them as they came, long shafts with Kims flights and they were all over the place, not to worry I simply changed to my preferred setup of inbetween laro shafts with target L flights and let them fly.

Saldy for me I just cant seem to throw them nice at all, they are straying into the 12s and 18s and falling out my board (Bulls Advantage 2) That is expected as smooth points tend to fall out of Bulls boards.

They just dont feel 23g to me they feel really light and the grip isnt as severe as on the Boxers, lovely dart to look at and feels great to hold but just cant throw them, I will have another go later but I think these will be put up for the swap shop or for sale.

Hate when you get excited about a set and you cant throw them should have bought aset of Zirconium Lewis or Perfect Storm as first planned

All part of the learning experience none the less
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done it a couple times, as you said part of the learning experience

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very cool lookin arrow!

These are very nice

Oh well at least you tried em and know now, if you had not tried them you would be wondering all the time. But I found the grip on the ones I had to be better than the Boxers what I have, so I guess its all down to personal preference in the end.

Just a little update on these, starting to fly a bit better but probably be looking to sell or trade these

what you after for these then murphy

look a nice dart for sure was close to getting a set myself last week but went for just a bit more than i wanted to pay.

I was as well lol, if it was the set 25g with the solipocket I was bidding like mad on ebay

think ill give these another go today then swap shop it is

switched to some gripper 2 medium stems and all of a sudden hit this followed by a 125, give this setup a go for a while, got a small tournement tonight so not sure wether to give these a go and hope for the best or not ??

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if its an important match I would stick with what you were using before to be on the safe side.

Thats the thing mate, ive decided to start fresh and swap all my darts for new sets.

so the set ive used for about a month is on their way ou on monday

need to just start completely fresh and try stick to a set

I tried that at the beginning of 2012, I managed it for 10 weeks with my 23g Target Sprints, I did start to improve but the itch to buy more darts never went away.

I dont really mind so much as it is one part of darts I enjoy a lot, and as I know because of my dodgy wrist and shoulder I am never going to be even a decent pub player it doesn't matter so much to me, but for others like yourself it is the only way to improve really, find a set and stick with it.