I would of thought that would lose a lot of forward momentum and not stick in firmly. Then again, they dont need to. lol

seems a bit strange to have a movable point soft tip dart, do they play any better than the normal soft tip?

getagrip wrote:

seems a bit strange to have a movable point soft tip dart, do they play any better than the normal soft tip?

The tips last longer. That's about it though. They play the same. Very heavy though. Probably around the weight limit for Dartslive.

those look great, im halfway through my 1000 ct bag of tips...no hyperbole, I buy tips 1000 at a time

that set is called the intruder, i found them at dartshopusa for $36...pretty pricey but if they are as good as you say they are....they are up to $70 depending where you go

Yep, found them last night.

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A-Z Darts have Voks soft tips- they are not rare

spat66 wrote:

A-Z Darts have Voks soft tips- they are not rare

1st time i've ever seen a set. That's rare to me. ;)

are they like blackwidows in that you can only use plastic stems? Or can you use metal ones?

Vallyr wrote:

are they like blackwidows in that you can only use plastic stems? Or can you use metal ones?

They are adjustable weight and you can use plastic points or change them to steel points.

nah nah not points stems/shafts. On widows you have to use plastic or it will strip the threads on the stem/shaft. Is it like that?

Vallyr wrote:

nah nah not points stems/shafts. On widows you have to use plastic or it will strip the threads on the stem/shaft. Is it like that?

Oh. Good question. I would think nylon stems would hold up enough. Have no idea really.

I have a pair of Volks - Blackhawks (will share picture when I get my camera charged and I'm not working). They were my wife's 1st set, I traded her my Hamerhead convertables once I saw them years ago. My brother-in-law still throw these when he comes over. He won a local LOD with them one night.

The moveable soft tip is unique in soft tips, back in the day soft tips were (crap) compared to the Lippoints we all play now. My thought was since the soft-tip (wire) was so large a movable point would be the answer. Bottom line it made no difference, since most tips deflect and score even if they wire and bounce out.

The Pro:
The longest lasting tip you will find, mine came with steel tips too, you can cconvert to them.
The barrels are 80% tungsten and last forever, the owner of Voks is a great guy (when I talked to him on the phone)
They make weight inserts , Alumium, brass, and tung so you can change weight (18 grams, 20 grams , 22 grams, 24 grams) it easy adjust weight -

Cons:
The soft tips are long and bend easy, you will change them because of this well before you break them. Changing these tips can be a pain, you have to unscrew and pull out the weight plug and the spring to pull out the soft tip. The tips are long but don't stick well (they do score) in some worn Arachnid boards - they work awesome in other board (Shelti)
The extra weights inserts don't come with the darts so you have to purchase each weight set.
You have to buy extra springs, cause there easy to lose if you have to change tips at a bar.

* You can use any shaft/stem on these darts
I know that Voks used to turn some barrels for Lazerdarts (if memory recalls the KC was one). Voks makes a lot of differnt styles of this dart - so finding a grip pattern you like is not hard to do.

There is a lot of the Voks darts I like, they should sell them in the UK really.