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PostSubject: Natural throw practice/training   Natural throw practice/training EmptyTue Dec 18, 2012 9:16 am

Im going to try and explain what I mean, but may not get it across as I want so bare with me.
I have a decent natural throw so Ive been told. What I mean by this is I pick the dart, lift it up to throwing height, rock it back once and then pull back and throw, all in one fluid movement.
I have been playing for a year and am setting my sights on super league next year. I also practice for at least a hour a day.
My problem is that because my throw is natural/fluid im not sure how to tighten it up to be more consistent, so I tried to change it to a throw more like say taylors where he stops, aims and fires. The reason I wanted to change it is that I thought the throw when broken down can be more analyzed to help performance and therefore make it more clinical and precise.
I much prefer throwing natural and enjoy it more but I don't think im improving because when I throw I dont have time to analyze it if/when it goes to crap.
Any advice for practice with a natural throw to help consistency please guys
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PostSubject: Re: Natural throw practice/training   Natural throw practice/training EmptyTue Dec 18, 2012 9:20 am

elbow in . move back leg back to tighten the throw. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Natural throw practice/training   Natural throw practice/training EmptyTue Dec 18, 2012 9:25 am

I think you should just throw your normal natural throw and just keep at it, the consistency will come.

I think I made the same mistake of trying to alter my throw and improve it by trying to be more clinical as you say, it never worked for me and now I cant throw my natural way anymore and not sure how or if I ever will. Injuring my shoulder never helped, but I know I cant throw what I used to be like, I think I am forever analysing it and trying hard to develop a throw that is easily repeatable, but it does not feel natural so I think it has ruined me really.
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PostSubject: Re: Natural throw practice/training   Natural throw practice/training EmptyTue Dec 18, 2012 9:48 am

whoa mate! don't start that. just keep practicing is all.
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PostSubject: Re: Natural throw practice/training   Natural throw practice/training EmptyTue Dec 18, 2012 10:02 am

how do you improve without a structure.
At present, if I throw and hit I smile, if I miss I dont really know why
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PostSubject: Re: Natural throw practice/training   Natural throw practice/training EmptyWed Dec 19, 2012 3:42 am

Anyone got any help or tips?
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PostSubject: Re: Natural throw practice/training   Natural throw practice/training EmptyWed Dec 19, 2012 3:48 am

Have you considered Flight School? I've been using that for about 9 months now and have seen some amazing improvements in my throw.

I am like you... my natural throw doesn't account for that pause that a lot of pro's seem to have at the back of their draw. But following George's advice, I just didn't worry about it. I think the best thing you can do is work with what your body naturally wants to do.

Look at some of the best players in the game today... Barney and MVG come to mind as immediate examples. They have that fluid throw you are talking about, and they seem to do okay! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Natural throw practice/training   Natural throw practice/training EmptyWed Dec 19, 2012 4:14 am

If you have a good natural throw and play to a good standard why are you trying to be like someone else as you stated Taylor? At this early point of your darts career I would concentrate on whats comfortable and not be focusing on too much technical detail. Keep putting in the hour a day and vary your practice routines this will ensure all areas are equal. As you get better and more consistent then you can focus on the small tweaks to make small adjustments to your game that may push up your averages by a point or 2. For now get comfortable on the oche, play as much as you can competitively, practice regularly and enjoy the game.
Get these right before you start to worry about anything else then in 6 months to a years ask the question again as then it will be time to start on the science of darts.

Remember nothing you do in practice will ever compare to playing in real tournaments so you may be doing 15, 16 17 dart finishes at home then you come to superleague and it's 22,24 and 26 dart legs and you will wonder why? but nerves and pressure play a huge part in darts.
As long as you keep playing you will improve your game but look to play the best players you can, but every game you play you will learn something new.
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PostSubject: Re: Natural throw practice/training   Natural throw practice/training EmptyWed Dec 19, 2012 5:17 am

So what your saying is that a natural throw will constantly improve over time even if you dont know why your missing or having a bad week.
And I wasnt trying to be like anyone else, just meant that I was trying to adjust my throw in aim, draw release so I could try and understand the mechanics of it.
Have to say though your spot on about the extra 9 darts when im playing outside the saftey of my den Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Natural throw practice/training   Natural throw practice/training EmptyWed Dec 19, 2012 10:06 am

Well just look at how many players are at such a high standard with what we call weird or erratic throws, I wish I never started to analyze my own throw as it messed everything up for me personally, I was getting along nicely before. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Natural throw practice/training   Natural throw practice/training EmptyWed Dec 19, 2012 11:27 am

dont and i mean dont try and change your throw style i did this and has taken me ages to get anything like my old throw back.just look to improve little by little make sure you dont move much maybe better focus maybe smaller flights that cut the air more what ever it is dont try and copy any ones throw i have and in the end it fails and then you will struggle to get back to where you was before.what i am really saying is the best way is tighten up what you have not every one is taylor and you will play bad some times maybe for months on end that is darts you have to plug away at it.
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